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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:25 am

This is complete bs and the slandering of the JOS will not get you very far.
Satan is the Sumerian God known as "EA" or "ENKI." He is a GOD, not an angel! He has been denigrated and slandered through the centuries with falsehoods and lies. Most people do not know Satan. They believe everything they are told about him without question. Fear is a powerful tool that has been used for centuries to keep humanity away from Satan.

Satan is the God Ea, aka ENKI, one of the first of the Nephilim to arrive on this planet and establish the first civilization. In Sumerian mythology, Enki's symbol was always the serpent.
Sanskrit is older and more than likely, the oldest of languages. Sumerian and Egyptian spiritual knowledge were derived from the Far
East, where it originated. I have found many of our Demons' names in Sanskrit,
along with their variations and much more. Nearly everything of western
occultism which has been corrupted, can be traced to its origins in the Far
East, where it is much closer to the original. Christianity and its ilk has
corrupted a lot of the Far Eastern doctrines and such, but to a much lesser
extent than what has been done with western occultism, which has been
catastrophic.

The Sanskrit root word "Sat", also sometimes "Satya" means Truth. "An" is also
a shortening of "Ananta" which means Eternal/Infinite/Never ending, etc. The
name "Satan" as a whole can also therefore be translated as "Truth Eternal" or
"The Infinite and Never Ending Truth". Our God Satan IS the Eternal, Infinite
and Never Ending Truth!

The enemy kikes stole this, incorporating it into their filthy forged
"language" they call hebrew, changing the meaning of this Sacred Name to
"adversary". What they are blatantly saying is that the Eternal and Never Ending
Truth, Satan, is their adversary. Truth is their worst enemy, as they are
nothing but lies.

"Satan" can also be found in many other Powerful Sanskrit words. Here are a
few examples:
-The "Four Kumaras" or great Spiritual Powers were called Sanaka, Sanatana,
Sanandana and Sanatkumara. The Four Kumaras were called the "Sons of Brahma".
Brahma here appears to be a name for the infinite Energy and Power called
"Ether" from which all was created, and the "Four Kumaras" seem to represent the
Four All Powerful Elements, Ether being the Fifth and the originator of the
others. The Elements are vital to all existence and form the Soul. Satan gave us
our Soul, and Satan is a Master over the Elements.
-The Sanskrit word Sanaatan or Sanataana which means eternal, fixed,
perpetual, ever present, the fixed creation and also Ancient and everlasting.
-The term "Sanatan Dharma" which means "The Eternal Law" or "Eternal teaching
of Truth" which was the original name given to the religion followed by the
people of the Indu's Valley.
-Santa which in Sanskrit means peaceful, calm and stilled, i.e. the state of
Meditation where the mind is cleared and focused on one point. It can also mean
"complete" and also "equilibrium".
-SatNam which means "the True Name".
-Satsang which means "the wise".

I also am aware that the claims of civilization beginning
in the Fertile Crescent of Mesopotamia in the Middle East [that lying bible] is
used to PURPOSELY MISLEAD everyone from researching the TRUE origins of humanity
in the Far East. Where christianity stole everything from and purposely
corrupted it.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:05 pm

Mac Friday wrote:This is complete bs and the slandering of the JOS will not get you very far.
Satan is the Sumerian God known as "EA" or "ENKI." He is a GOD, not an angel! He has been denigrated and slandered through the centuries with falsehoods and lies. Most people do not know Satan. They believe everything they are told about him without question. Fear is a powerful tool that has been used for centuries to keep humanity away from Satan.

Satan is the God Ea, aka ENKI, one of the first of the Nephilim to arrive on this planet and establish the first civilization. In Sumerian mythology, Enki's symbol was always the serpent.
Sanskrit is older and more than likely, the oldest of languages. Sumerian and Egyptian spiritual knowledge were derived from the Far
East, where it originated. I have found many of our Demons' names in Sanskrit,
along with their variations and much more. Nearly everything of western
occultism which has been corrupted, can be traced to its origins in the Far
East, where it is much closer to the original. Christianity and its ilk has
corrupted a lot of the Far Eastern doctrines and such, but to a much lesser
extent than what has been done with western occultism, which has been
catastrophic.

The Sanskrit root word "Sat", also sometimes "Satya" means Truth. "An" is also
a shortening of "Ananta" which means Eternal/Infinite/Never ending, etc. The
name "Satan" as a whole can also therefore be translated as "Truth Eternal" or
"The Infinite and Never Ending Truth". Our God Satan IS the Eternal, Infinite
and Never Ending Truth!

The enemy kikes stole this, incorporating it into their filthy forged
"language" they call hebrew, changing the meaning of this Sacred Name to
"adversary". What they are blatantly saying is that the Eternal and Never Ending
Truth, Satan, is their adversary. Truth is their worst enemy, as they are
nothing but lies.

"Satan" can also be found in many other Powerful Sanskrit words. Here are a
few examples:
-The "Four Kumaras" or great Spiritual Powers were called Sanaka, Sanatana,
Sanandana and Sanatkumara. The Four Kumaras were called the "Sons of Brahma".
Brahma here appears to be a name for the infinite Energy and Power called
"Ether" from which all was created, and the "Four Kumaras" seem to represent the
Four All Powerful Elements, Ether being the Fifth and the originator of the
others. The Elements are vital to all existence and form the Soul. Satan gave us
our Soul, and Satan is a Master over the Elements.
-The Sanskrit word Sanaatan or Sanataana which means eternal, fixed,
perpetual, ever present, the fixed creation and also Ancient and everlasting.
-The term "Sanatan Dharma" which means "The Eternal Law" or "Eternal teaching
of Truth" which was the original name given to the religion followed by the
people of the Indu's Valley.
-Santa which in Sanskrit means peaceful, calm and stilled, i.e. the state of
Meditation where the mind is cleared and focused on one point. It can also mean
"complete" and also "equilibrium".
-SatNam which means "the True Name".
-Satsang which means "the wise".

I also am aware that the claims of civilization beginning
in the Fertile Crescent of Mesopotamia in the Middle East [that lying bible] is
used to PURPOSELY MISLEAD everyone from researching the TRUE origins of humanity
in the Far East. Where christianity stole everything from and purposely
corrupted it.

Is he a God or an Alien. Please be precise. Don't worry I'm aware that some of the Goetic Demons were originally Pagan, Folk Gods worshipped by the local people. It's just that if you want to side with Enki, I can cast my mind back into history and find an all power God, God. Why not side with him?

Satan is the God Ea, aka ENKI,

Really?

one of the first of the Nephilim to arrive on this planet

What are the Nephilim exactly? They are mentioned in the Bible you know?

In Sumerian mythology, Enki's symbol was always the serpent.

Really?

If you want to be that opportunistic we might take everything with a serpent to the extreme. Hey all these medical centers have serpents they must be SATANIC, or hey the Bible mentions a serpent who decieves Adam and Even maybe the serpent is EVIL. maybe satan is evil.

Sanskrit is older and more than likely, the oldest of languages.

Ehhhhh, no.

Sumerian and Egyptian spiritual knowledge were derived from the Far
East, where it originated.

Sumeria and Egypt don't matter at all.

I have found many of our Demons' names in Sanskrit,
along with their variations and much more. Nearly everything of western
occultism which has been corrupted, can be traced to its origins in the Far
East, where it is much closer to the original. Christianity and its ilk has
corrupted a lot of the Far Eastern doctrines and such, but to a much lesser
extent than what has been done with western occultism, which has been
catastrophic.

Ehhh, see the problem is that the Demon's names already come from another language. So just because they happen to look like Sanskrit words doesn't mean anything.

It would be like saying the English word False (which means False) actually means Atomic Bomb in the XYZ language, because the XYZ language has a word Falso. No False, means False.

About Western Occultism, we can't really say that they took everything from the East. Necessarily they often reference Eastern works, but some of it may have been come up from their own. Although it does seem like the East contributes everything spiritual.

I fail to see how Christianity has corrupted any spiritual doctrines. Whatsoever.

Western Occultism has not been corrupted by Christianity?

The Sanskrit root word "Sat", also sometimes "Satya" means Truth. "An" is also
a shortening of "Ananta" which means Eternal/Infinite/Never ending, etc. The
name "Satan" as a whole can also therefore be translated as "Truth Eternal" or
"The Infinite and Never Ending Truth". Our God Satan IS the Eternal, Infinite
and Never Ending Truth!

The enemy kikes stole this, incorporating it into their filthy forged
"language" they call hebrew, changing the meaning of this Sacred Name to
"adversary". What they are blatantly saying is that the Eternal and Never Ending
Truth, Satan, is their adversary. Truth is their worst enemy, as they are
nothing but lies.

"Satan" can also be found in many other Powerful Sanskrit words. Here are a
few examples:
-The "Four Kumaras" or great Spiritual Powers were called Sanaka, Sanatana,
Sanandana and Sanatkumara. The Four Kumaras were called the "Sons of Brahma".
Brahma here appears to be a name for the infinite Energy and Power called
"Ether" from which all was created, and the "Four Kumaras" seem to represent the
Four All Powerful Elements, Ether being the Fifth and the originator of the
others. The Elements are vital to all existence and form the Soul. Satan gave us
our Soul, and Satan is a Master over the Elements.
-The Sanskrit word Sanaatan or Sanataana which means eternal, fixed,
perpetual, ever present, the fixed creation and also Ancient and everlasting.
-The term "Sanatan Dharma" which means "The Eternal Law" or "Eternal teaching
of Truth" which was the original name given to the religion followed by the
people of the Indu's Valley.
-Santa which in Sanskrit means peaceful, calm and stilled, i.e. the state of
Meditation where the mind is cleared and focused on one point. It can also mean
"complete" and also "equilibrium".
-SatNam which means "the True Name".
-Satsang which means "the wise".

I also am aware that the claims of civilization beginning
in the Fertile Crescent of Mesopotamia in the Middle East [that lying bible] is
used to PURPOSELY MISLEAD everyone from researching the TRUE origins of humanity
in the Far East. Where christianity stole everything from and purposely
corrupted it.

Blah blah blah blah. Just because they look similar in English doesn't mean anything. Are you aware of what the Sanskrit language looks like in its Devanagiri font?

First of all the word Sanatana (which might mean eternal) already isn't Satan. As it begins Sana. Secondly Sanatana might look or actually be different in Sanskrit when written in its original language from Satan (if there is a word Satan in the Sanskrit language).

Although I will admit some languages do share remarkable similarities. But this is more likely due to the overall similarities of humans and their tendencies to do certain things as opposed to other languages actually being derived from Sanskrit.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by Guest on Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:10 pm

Again, nothing but bs! Sounds like im talking to either a reverse xian or an kike agent.

All of the Ancient Pagan Religions (the original and True Religions)
recognized a God who had created Humanity. His name in Ancient Sumeria was
EN.KI, "Lord of the Earth". Enki was a God of Creation, the Sciences
including Genetics and Architecture, Medicine and Healing and of the
Creation of the Soul. The Serpent represented Knowledge, both Spiritual
and Scientific, Healing and also the DNA. Thus, was Enki's primary Symbol
as the God who had created Humanity via Genetic Engineering. The DNA Helix
resembles entwined Serpents. In many of the Ancient Sumerian Tablets, Enki
was represented as a Serpent Himself, at other times with a Serpent around
His shoulders or at His feet.

Anyway, the point of this is to show where
xianity twisted this. The story of "ED.IN" is told in the Ancient Sumerian
Epics. ED.IN was a centre of Scientific and Spiritual Knowledge, built by
the Gods, in which some of the first created Humans had been allowed to
reside. In this original version, Enki, represented as the Serpent, had
created humans and was in the process of instilling within us "Godly
Knowledge and Power of the Soul", (represented by a Tree, an age-old
symbol of the Soul. This is also seen in the Norse Tree "Yggdrasil" so
this was not unique to Sumeria).

The Sumerian Epics explain that the Gods
were split over this, meaning that some of them supported Enki/Satan's
efforts to give Humanity the Knowledge of the Gods, and others were
against it and felt that Humans were a threat to their Power and should be
destroyed. Thus, the Humans were thrown out of ED.IN and were forbidden
this Knowledge and Power.

Xianity lifted this story completely, (as with everything else it stole),
altering only the names of the Gods, removing some of the other Gods, and
replacing them with its fictitious worthless piece of shit excuse for a
"god". Enki became "Satan", a name based originally on Ancient Sanskrit.
It is clear that this is not merely a "loose connection" between the two,
or a instance of mistakenly associating the one with the other. It is
blatant and proves that Satan was originally Enki.

As has been said before, and as is explained extensively on the JoS, the
"hebrew" language was yet another example of how the kikes STOLE. Studies
done on the origins of language have proven that hebrew is NOT the
"original language" as kikes try to claim. It was taken from languages far more Ancient than itself and is a fraud. I am repeating again what has been said thousands of times and what most of you are well aware of: The enemy has NOTHING of their own! They stole EVERYTHING.

The name "Satan" is NOT hebrew in origin. It is Sanskrit. Sanskrit is one
of the most Ancient and the original Language. High Priestess Maxine
stated recently, "Sa ta na ma" from which Satan is taken, are the primary
"sounds" in Sanskrit. They are said to be extremely powerful and when
vibrated properly can bring one to heightened levels of Spirituality. As
well as this, "Satan" also means "Truth" in Sanskrit. The God now known as
Satan was always associated with supreme Power and Truth. When the kikes
stole the name Satan and corrupted it into their filthy "language", they
called it "adversary". What they were doing, fittingly, was labelling
TRUTH and POWER their adversary. As has been explained, the Serpent,
symbol of Enki, was a symbol of Truth, Knowledge and Power. The kikes
stole all of these aspects and when you study each, it becomes obvious.

Another thing these people like to claim is that there is no proof that
Satan/Enki and the Gods are real Beings who visited Earth Physically, i.e.
Extraterrestrials. The proof is all there. Again, those of us who interact
directly with the Gods know this to be True as it has been confirmed. But
aside from this, Ancient History offers proof as well. The name given to
our Gods was "Annunaki", which translates as "Those who from Heaven to
Earth came", the Beings from the skies, i.e. Beings who arrived on Earth
from Space. The Ancient Texts from all over the world relate the same
thing. Ancient Depictions also show the Craft in which the Gods arrived.
Many cultures relate stories of powerful "Lightning Birds", which were
vehicles of the Gods. Huge Flying "Birds" that emitted bolts and flashes
like lightning. When it is investigated, it is obvious what is being
referred to.

Aside from the Ancient Texts, there are still some remote tribes today who
speak of the "Lightning Birds" and "Gods from the Skies". Recently I
attended a conference on Ayurveda and one of the speakers went into
stories about our Gods, and was relating how he came across a small Tribe
of people who worshipped a God called "RA" (Amon-RA/Marduk) and who told
him that RA came from the skies and visited their Ancestors in a flying
machine. They said they are still waiting for RA to return and believe
firmly that He will return soon to Earth from the skies in this "Flying
Machine". It is obvious.

Another thing these fools do who try to claim that Enki and Satan are not
the same Being and who insist on rejecting other Truths such as the fact
our Gods are REAL Beings , is simply resort to referring to everyone and
anyone who happens to know and spread the Truth as "nuts". "Oh well, he's
just a nut case obviously". I notice this often and it's really quite
amusing. It's like a last resort of a desperate loser. If they can't think
of anything else, they simply call us all "nuts".
All of the above is explained extensively on the JoS. This is just a
recap.

In closing, there are those people who, deep down, are incapable of
letting go of xianity. They will do anything to cling to the xian lies and
corruptions concerning Father Satan and our Gods and refuse to open their
eyes to the facts that are right in front of them. Needless to say, these
people have no place in True Satanism.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:53 pm

[Again, nothing but bs! Sounds like im talking to either a reverse xian or an kike agent.

Nope. By the way what I say is not BS, any and all of your claims could be easily brought down by other occultists, historians and scientists.

All of the Ancient Pagan Religions (the original and True Religions)
recognized a God who had created Humanity. His name in Ancient Sumeria was
EN.KI, "Lord of the Earth". Enki was a God of Creation, the Sciences
including Genetics and Architecture, Medicine and Healing and of the
Creation of the Soul. The Serpent represented Knowledge, both Spiritual
and Scientific, Healing and also the DNA. Thus, was Enki's primary Symbol
as the God who had created Humanity via Genetic Engineering. The DNA Helix
resembles entwined Serpents. In many of the Ancient Sumerian Tablets, Enki
was represented as a Serpent Himself, at other times with a Serpent around
His shoulders or at His feet.

Rel leh? First of all you make the assumption that Enki is Satan (may not be true), secondly you say all the ancient religions but this only applies to religions within a certain region of the Middle East, thirdly if you really think that religions who have an omnipotent creator are referring to Satan why don't you expand your opportunism and say: Hey the Bible is actually the referring to Satan as God! The Biblical God is in fact Satan or Enki! IT ALL MAKES SENSE, see the BIBLE IS PROOF THAT SATAN CREATED THE WORLD and everything.

Fourthly your serpent thing is flagrant opportunism again, like I said before if you put everything that mentions a snake or any artwork that has a snake then you might as well say that for everything: HEY ALL THOSE MEDICAL CENTERS WITH ENTWINING SNAKES AS THEIR symbol are satanic. You have to use a piece of artwork where the snake is used SIGNIFICANTLY, furthermore there must surrounding evidence that the people who created the artwork are satanic. Otherwise we could draw all sorts of random links and conclusions.

Hey Satan's color is blue, and the sky is blue this must mean someting, satan created the sky etc. I mean if you put it that way you could pretty much say anything, hell, you could draw conclusions that contradict the one's you just drew.

Fifthly the idea that those sumerian tablets represent anything is probably BS, I mean is there anyone alive who could possibly reliably translate Sumerian Tablets who is not a crackpot? Just because ancient writings or symbols have things that resemble helicopters or ufos doesn't mean anyting. They could in fact be referring to other things, like farming tools.

Who knows? Maybe ancient people just put up symbols for no reason at all? Artistic expression, religion, as a prank against future generations, these are all plausible explanations. These types of historical things are all muddy, translation is muddy. And even they did mean anything they mean nothing.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:54 pm

Anyway, the point of this is to show where
xianity twisted this. The story of "ED.IN" is told in the Ancient Sumerian
Epics. ED.IN was a centre of Scientific and Spiritual Knowledge, built by
the Gods, in which some of the first created Humans had been allowed to
reside. In this original version, Enki, represented as the Serpent, had
created humans and was in the process of instilling within us "Godly
Knowledge and Power of the Soul", (represented by a Tree, an age-old
symbol of the Soul. This is also seen in the Norse Tree "Yggdrasil" so
this was not unique to Sumeria).

I'm not a xian. Ahhh, don't bring norse trees in and make random connections that don't mean anything.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:58 pm

Anyway, the point of this is to show where
xianity twisted this. The story of "ED.IN" is told in the Ancient Sumerian
Epics. ED.IN was a centre of Scientific and Spiritual Knowledge, built by
the Gods, in which some of the first created Humans had been allowed to
reside. In this original version, Enki, represented as the Serpent, had
created humans and was in the process of instilling within us "Godly
Knowledge and Power of the Soul", (represented by a Tree, an age-old
symbol of the Soul. This is also seen in the Norse Tree "Yggdrasil" so
this was not unique to Sumeria).

The Sumerian Epics explain that the Gods
were split over this, meaning that some of them supported Enki/Satan's
efforts to give Humanity the Knowledge of the Gods, and others were
against it and felt that Humans were a threat to their Power and should be
destroyed. Thus, the Humans were thrown out of ED.IN and were forbidden
this Knowledge and Power.

Xianity lifted this story completely, (as with everything else it stole),
altering only the names of the Gods, removing some of the other Gods, and
replacing them with its fictitious worthless piece of shit excuse for a
"god". Enki became "Satan", a name based originally on Ancient Sanskrit.
It is clear that this is not merely a "loose connection" between the two,
or a instance of mistakenly associating the one with the other. It is
blatant and proves that Satan was originally Enki.

As has been said before, and as is explained extensively on the JoS, the
"hebrew" language was yet another example of how the kikes STOLE. Studies
done on the origins of language have proven that hebrew is NOT the
"original language" as kikes try to claim. It was taken from languages far more Ancient than itself and is a fraud. I am repeating again what has been said thousands of times and what most of you are well aware of: The enemy has NOTHING of their own! They stole EVERYTHING.

The name "Satan" is NOT hebrew in origin. It is Sanskrit. Sanskrit is one
of the most Ancient and the original Language. High Priestess Maxine
stated recently, "Sa ta na ma" from which Satan is taken, are the primary
"sounds" in Sanskrit. They are said to be extremely powerful and when
vibrated properly can bring one to heightened levels of Spirituality. As
well as this, "Satan" also means "Truth" in Sanskrit. The God now known as
Satan was always associated with supreme Power and Truth. When the kikes
stole the name Satan and corrupted it into their filthy "language", they
called it "adversary". What they were doing, fittingly, was labelling
TRUTH and POWER their adversary. As has been explained, the Serpent,
symbol of Enki, was a symbol of Truth, Knowledge and Power. The kikes
stole all of these aspects and when you study each, it becomes obvious.

Another thing these people like to claim is that there is no proof that
Satan/Enki and the Gods are real Beings who visited Earth Physically, i.e.
Extraterrestrials. The proof is all there. Again, those of us who interact
directly with the Gods know this to be True as it has been confirmed. But
aside from this, Ancient History offers proof as well. The name given to
our Gods was "Annunaki", which translates as "Those who from Heaven to
Earth came", the Beings from the skies, i.e. Beings who arrived on Earth
from Space. The Ancient Texts from all over the world relate the same
thing. Ancient Depictions also show the Craft in which the Gods arrived.
Many cultures relate stories of powerful "Lightning Birds", which were
vehicles of the Gods. Huge Flying "Birds" that emitted bolts and flashes
like lightning. When it is investigated, it is obvious what is being
referred to.

Aside from the Ancient Texts, there are still some remote tribes today who
speak of the "Lightning Birds" and "Gods from the Skies". Recently I
attended a conference on Ayurveda and one of the speakers went into
stories about our Gods, and was relating how he came across a small Tribe
of people who worshipped a God called "RA" (Amon-RA/Marduk) and who told
him that RA came from the skies and visited their Ancestors in a flying
machine. They said they are still waiting for RA to return and believe
firmly that He will return soon to Earth from the skies in this "Flying
Machine". It is obvious.

Another thing these fools do who try to claim that Enki and Satan are not
the same Being and who insist on rejecting other Truths such as the fact
our Gods are REAL Beings , is simply resort to referring to everyone and
anyone who happens to know and spread the Truth as "nuts". "Oh well, he's
just a nut case obviously". I notice this often and it's really quite
amusing. It's like a last resort of a desperate loser. If they can't think
of anything else, they simply call us all "nuts".
All of the above is explained extensively on the JoS. This is just a
recap.

In closing, there are those people who, deep down, are incapable of
letting go of xianity. They will do anything to cling to the xian lies and
corruptions concerning Father Satan and our Gods and refuse to open their
eyes to the facts that are right in front of them. Needless to say, these
people have no place in True Satanism.

Sigghhh.... You have made so many claims that I'm not going to explain or respond to any of them anymore.
No, no, no, no.

SA TA NA MA? four basic sounds of sanskrit? No. ED.IN Eden? sound similar? No. Doesn't mean anything.

Essentially you have basically made a bunch of claims which can neither be proven or disproven (but can easily be disproven), I mean if I wanted I could say a flying spaghetti monster created the universe and there would be no way to disprove it.

Have you heard of truthbeknown.com ?

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:24 pm

Or say A Course Iin Miracles, would you take that literally? Would you take a purely metaphorical poem or book meant to lead someone to Enlightenment or a certain way of thinking literally? What about the Bible? This is the problem with translation, what if God was a concept and not a being, what if God was meant to be something else and not an omnipotent being. This is the problem with translation, it doesn't mean anything. What if it was all just a metaphor or an artful story? How would you know? Translation doesn't mean anything, words contain no content.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by Guest on Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:48 pm

bboyYen, stop fucking around with stupid questions and "truth website" links. I've been through all of the "new age" bullshit about empowering and truth-telling. Nothing comes close to satanism. Why don't you check out: David Wilcock, Drunvalo Melchizedek and see what these people got.
And if you have so many questions, I suggest you ask Satan. We (at least I) don't have time to deal with your "intelligent" questions.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by LossoCelo on Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:55 pm

AgeOfLucifer wrote:bboyYen, stop fucking around with stupid questions and "truth website" links. I've been through all of the "new age" bullshit about empowering and truth-telling. Nothing comes close to satanism. Why don't you check out: David Wilcock, Drunvalo Melchizedek and see what these people got.
And if you have so many questions, I suggest you ask Satan. We (at least I) don't have time to deal with your "intelligent" questions.

Calm down mate, I can't be having in-fighting or you guys will end up with temp suspensions. I don't want to do that to someone with as much intelligence, would be a waste of both our time and ability. Just chill, let me know when people are pissing you off and let me handle it for you, in the end they don't want to play any cards with mods and admins, none of us accept them.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:46 pm

AgeOfLucifer wrote:bboyYen, stop fucking around with stupid questions and "truth website" links. I've been through all of the "new age" bullshit about empowering and truth-telling. Nothing comes close to satanism. Why don't you check out: David Wilcock, Drunvalo Melchizedek and see what these people got.
And if you have so many questions, I suggest you ask Satan. We (at least I) don't have time to deal with your "intelligent" questions.

Ok ok ok, sorry. First of all let me clarify, I don't believe truthism or truthbeknown. Secondly, the question that's the really bothering is the third one in the other topic: "Questions and clarifications." if anyone can answer it then thanks.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by bboyYen on Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:11 pm

Well.

First of all Maxine contradicts herself. She claims that Satanists are law abiding and yet she advocates killing jews? or cheating on tests? (assuming that's illegal).

Of course she advocates kill my magick but of course if magick were a reliable way of killing then that would be illegal... unless of course magick is not a reliable way of killing.

Put this way: say a person discovered that you could kill people by emitting certain sounds from their computers and that a person discovered how to hack people's computers and do that, if he did kill people by doing that he would definitely be tried in court and prosecuted. So how is killing people by magick different? Theoretically it shouldn't be, unless of course deep down inside Maxine doesn't believe that magick works. So that's my point, deep down inside Maxine doesn't believe magick works.

Another thing is the Luciferian Liberation Front.

http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/llffaq.html

http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/enlist.html

http://www.subgenius.com/

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=luciferian+liberation+front&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/dvera/CoEvan/arguments/cruel/LLF.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by Demonchick on Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:56 pm

I'm simply going to state a few facts...
 to aproach your jew comment..From what Iv read it seems like way more advanced satanist have researched and found out THEY [meaning jews]ARE TRYING TO ENSLAVE NON JEWS[as in us] I'm not one to be a slave. Idk bout u. But no. I'm not going down without a fight. Also I read somewhere that in the Jewish bible they said that each Jew would have more then 28k slaves. Or some large #. I,along with all the other satanists refuse to be a slave to anyone. If you want to be a Jew-slave, GO FOR IT! I can't stop u.  
     The serpent is a symbol of the little snake Thingy that's at the bottom of your spine. I know what it's called but I can't spell it so I'm not gonna try. Lol...  And it is shown in ancient Egypt on the pharos headdresses. The beards are the belly of the snake and on the top there's a snake head. Even the way it fans out around the sides looks like a cobra. Are you seeing anything similar.
   Also if satanism wasn't true then why would people be able to move things with their minds? Light things on fire with their minds,power some electrical things, I could go on and on and onn. Also, I have proof Satan exists and why the bible is a bunch bullshit.  Satan has had many conversations with many different people who don't know eachother, me and many other members have felt his energy.  The bible has many contradictions and there were supposedly 80 difrent gospels but wouldn't that seem unlikely for there to be 80 gospels in one book? I think so. The bible also says don't give human sacrifices but Abraham almost killed his son because "god" said so. And the tree,snake,fruit, Adam and eve story? Ghats a rip off. The "tree of knowledge" is
1(I found this as a coincidence notice how satans said to be a snake? Did I not just point that out. Then look. He's in the tree of knowledge?!?!!then the snake is in the tree much like the serpent in your chakras or wherever it is) the tree is a map of the human soul. 
2.Maybe If you looked at the ten commandments you would see the "thou shall not kill" hmmm I recap a particular thing called the crusades... 
3. The ten commandments are practically setting us up to be slaves.
4. Wouldnt a enemy(s)trying to make people follow him(them) by trying to out do the othe one and keep saying I am god. Do this and I will reward you, making all these statements screaming "look at m! See! I'm god! Don't look at Lucifer because I'm right here. Look!!!" Satan doesn't Need  67 books crammed into one big book saying he's God. He simply says it once and it's your choice to believe it. He doesn't have to try so hard because it's true. Must you continue to be blind..? I just shoved proof in your face practically. I can keep going on and on. But I think this is good for now.

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:30 pm

How long is this kike going to remain here? It's clear he has no intentions on learning any truth.

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Post by Demonchick on Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:22 pm

Very true.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by LossoCelo on Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:41 pm

Mac Friday wrote:How long is this kike going to remain here? It's clear he has no intentions on learning any truth.

This is a form of in fighting Mac, you've been warned. He's on a temporary suspension, though I do not have enough legitimization to ban him for good. We do not follow the same rules as the E-groups Mac.

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:38 pm

LossoCelo wrote:
Mac Friday wrote:How long is this kike going to remain here? It's clear he has no intentions on learning any truth.

This is a form of in fighting Mac, you've been warned. He's on a temporary suspension, though I do not have enough legitimization to ban him for good. We do not follow the same rules as the E-groups Mac.

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Well im just saying, I am very capable of bringing a lot of new members to this forum. But it will be pointless and they will eventually get tired and leave behind people being able to rant and rave about bs. Not to mention I am more than just a member of the JOS, im a little more than that. Now I was very amicable I would say in my first 2-3 replys. But some stuff should not be tolerated. The link on the JOS is pointless once they come in here and see slandering and kike propaganda. Now if you noticed I tried in several post to refute his claims in a nice manner.

Even in the e-groups, one is capable of causing debate and it's allowed. But when it goes to far, it get taking care of. Im not saying there is anything wrong with having different opinions. But it's obvious this individual took it to far and made some radical accusations.

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:56 pm

I can understand that but this individual was getting out of hand and getting really annoying.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by LossoCelo on Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:51 pm

Yes, I know the E-groups does have rules as well, but our rules are different. The issue has been resolved, and I apologized for it taking so long. I understand that you are more then a member on the e-groups, but here no one is treated better then anyone here. You are among the respected members because of your knowledge, this does not give you rank here though. Even my moderators got an taste that they have no more rights then a member, simply the ability to manage posts they specify in.

He has been suspended and the moderation group is discussing a ban.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by JonParmesan on Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:32 am

Ban him.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by Jordan on Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:06 am

Anyways, enough about bboyen.

The way I look at it, devil worshipping is a form of satanism. The Temples of Satan state that there are two major sub-categories of theistic satanism. The first being traditional satanism, which is what JoS is all about and what the majority of the members here are part of. It also mentions Fundamental Satanism described below:

Fundamental Satanism (Fundamental Satanist)
Often times a Devil Worshipper keeping to a strong set of codes and ideologies that can include Human Sacraficial Rites and Blood and typical Evil and Dark Conitations, instead of honoring the Deity.

This was written by grand magistre Blackwood who is a highly respected member in the satanic community. I personally view him as a good credible source as he does lots of research towards the roots of Satanism.

Of course I am not trying to promote the Temples of Satan, just mentioning them to let you know that this definition was taken from another source. Personally I feel that a variety of theistic satanist beliefs are good to get a well rounded feel for satanism, being that I am fairly new to this. I don't really like a lot of the ideology of the Fundamentalist though. I am opposed to sacrificing, and feel that honering Satan is a very important aspect of Satanism. Just putting this info out there to add to the conversation to get back on topic and away from the in-fighting.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:18 am

Jordan wrote:Anyways, enough about bboyen.

The way I look at it, devil worshipping is a form of satanism. The Temples of Satan state that there are two major sub-categories of theistic satanism. The first being traditional satanism, which is what JoS is all about and what the majority of the members here are part of. It also mentions Fundamental Satanism described below:

Fundamental Satanism (Fundamental Satanist)
Often times a Devil Worshipper keeping to a strong set of codes and ideologies that can include Human Sacraficial Rites and Blood and typical Evil and Dark Conitations, instead of honoring the Deity.

This was written by grand magistre Blackwood who is a highly respected member in the satanic community. I personally view him as a good credible source as he does lots of research towards the roots of Satanism.

Of course I am not trying to promote the Temples of Satan, just mentioning them to let you know that this definition was taken from another source. Personally I feel that a variety of theistic satanist beliefs are good to get a well rounded feel for satanism, being that I am fairly new to this. I don't really like a lot of the ideology of the Fundamentalist though. I am opposed to sacrificing, and feel that honering Satan is a very important aspect of Satanism. Just putting this info out there to add to the conversation to get back on topic and away from the in-fighting.

Yeah I noticed that a lot of the members here follow and or a part of the JOS. Which is why I was trying to get the admin to see. Now if they keep seeing messages like the last there will be no members here. Only the one who dont follow the JOS. IT's not about me needing to be treated different like losso said. Im just saying, im not bringing members in here until I feel slandering and mis info has stopped and will not be allowed. Like I stated before everyone has the right to believe what they want. But when you have a forum with probably the majority of the members who follow the JOS. Allowing post like from bbyen is only going to cause people to leave.

I speak from years and years of experience. Some 10-13 years, yet I still dont consider myself an expert. Losso you have a very good forum and I see lots of potential. To tell the truth I have other more important duties to to take care of. Right now im working with the kabalistic squares, the real kabalah which is not jewish in origin by and stretch of the imagination. Working on programming the soul and preparing for the acension of my kundalini serpent. Which I want to poit out is not the final step in reaching godhood. It's more of a preparatory step.


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Post by LucifugeKaiser on Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:16 pm

Mac Friday wrote:
Jordan wrote:Anyways, enough about bboyen.

The way I look at it, devil worshipping is a form of satanism. The Temples of Satan state that there are two major sub-categories of theistic satanism. The first being traditional satanism, which is what JoS is all about and what the majority of the members here are part of. It also mentions Fundamental Satanism described below:

Fundamental Satanism (Fundamental Satanist)
Often times a Devil Worshipper keeping to a strong set of codes and ideologies that can include Human Sacraficial Rites and Blood and typical Evil and Dark Conitations, instead of honoring the Deity.

This was written by grand magistre Blackwood who is a highly respected member in the satanic community. I personally view him as a good credible source as he does lots of research towards the roots of Satanism.

Of course I am not trying to promote the Temples of Satan, just mentioning them to let you know that this definition was taken from another source. Personally I feel that a variety of theistic satanist beliefs are good to get a well rounded feel for satanism, being that I am fairly new to this. I don't really like a lot of the ideology of the Fundamentalist though. I am opposed to sacrificing, and feel that honering Satan is a very important aspect of Satanism. Just putting this info out there to add to the conversation to get back on topic and away from the in-fighting.

Yeah I noticed that a lot of the members here follow and or a part of the JOS. Which is why I was trying to get the admin to see. Now if they keep seeing messages like the last there will be no members here. Only the one who dont follow the JOS. IT's not about me needing to be treated different like losso said. Im just saying, im not bringing members in here until I feel slandering and mis info has stopped and will not be allowed. Like I stated before everyone has the right to believe what they want. But when you have a forum with probably the majority of the members who follow the JOS. Allowing post like from bbyen is only going to cause people to leave.

I speak from years and years of experience. Some 10-13 years, yet I still dont consider myself an expert. Losso you have a very good forum and I see lots of potential. To tell the truth I have other more important duties to to take care of. Right now im working with the kabalistic squares, the real kabalah which is not jewish in origin by and stretch of the imagination. Working on programming the soul and preparing for the acension of my kundalini serpent. Which I want to poit out is not the final step in reaching godhood. It's more of a preparatory step.


What I understand is that The Magnum Opus is the act of reaching godhead am I correct? So raising the kundalini serpent is a preperatory step? I'm wondering how exactly it works. I know its through yoga and the five tibetans, but there's more to it right? I've been doing the five tibetans for at least most days of this week, I feel alot better when I do them. What other meditations go along with that? and is Kundalini ascension the only preperatory step?
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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:31 pm

The magnum opus given in the three steps is also preparatory. There are more steps that proceed, that one can only receive with the help of Satan or the Gods. This is why it helps to have ones GD available.

To assure the kundalini serpent raises properly, there needs to be a free path of obstructions. This is why it's important to have all of your chakras opened. Your going to be dealing with massive amounts of energy which you will not be able to successfully handle without your chakras being fully opened and balanced.

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Re: Is Satanism and Devil Worshipping the Same Thing.

Post by Dante Satanas on Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:44 am

I may be a little late to this err.. Party? Well anyways... This website is for all Satanists, but I have come to notice almost all our member of are JoS, so Losso, send me a message. We need to discus some new terms.

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Post by LossoCelo on Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:52 pm

I'm in agreeing with that dante, talk it out in a PM or in person tomorrow. Uhm, as for Mac, I apologize for this. Dante has filled me in a little more about the situation that I had not noted when I was trying to stop the arguments going on. In this situation I acted before noting, and I must take the blame for that happening.

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